post_i2010_summary
These minutes have been collected during the session on 2009-09-23, held in Brussels, 36 Rue Froissart The discussion on these minutes is available (from 2009-09-24) on www.robertolofaro.com/blog/2009/09/24/post-i2010/ The names might contain some mistakes and, of course, my summary of the opinions expressed in each session by each person might not necessarily represent what the person meant- just what I understood Finally, my own personal comments and remarks are between [] brackets
summary
Title: "Public hearing, Brussels 23.09.2009 Priorities for a new strategy for European Information Society (2010-2015) " Ken Ducatel intro - Head of Unit Commission-wide strategy, also if the mandate is for the DG Information Society & Media 9 teams set up 1. ICT for growth and jobs (see session 5) 2. Sustainable "low carbon" economy (see session 1) 3. ICT research and innovation (see session 2) 4 High speed networds, open Internet (see session 3) 5 Online single market (see session 4) 6 Access to creativitv NOT A SESSION 7 International ICT arena (see session 5) 8, 9: Public Services & ICT for quality of life (see session 6) the stream will be uploaded
Phase 3: Strategy implementation
First half 2010 adoption of new strategy target for the adopted strategy paper end of March technology 2020 event in Amsterdam, May 2010
Phase 1: consultation
2009-08-04/10-09 public consultation online; 2009-09-22 other 5 languages written input from corporation accepted
Phase 2: Visby conference
2009-11-09/10 Visby conference Sweden se2009.eu/visbyagenda "Creating impact for an eUnion 2015" #visbyagenda on twitter for feed-back; stream; www.ourvisbyagenda.eu
session 1
ANEC
e-waste: should be part of the carbon economy, how is going to be addressed?
Digital Europe Christine Macdonald
she works for Intel, represents here "Digital Europe" combining 40 national associations, about 10k enterprises, 2mln employees ===== ICT innovations with potential beneficial impacts, but have not been deployed in a systemic way need to "embed" solutions with integrated public policies, at the EU and National level, consolidating and removing regulatory barriers need to invest in infrastructure, provide market incentives appropriate standardization to allow interoperability potential and need for new business model summary: need for a smart and holistic approach
ENPA - European Newspapers Association
labelling CO2 emissions in advertising ENPA is critical of any mandatory labelling, as that would further affect the sector, that has currently an already negative outlook a study will be linked to the proceeds
intro
Sustainable "low carbon" economy speaker from Deutsche Telekom report from McKinsey on ICT impact and potential reduction of both the impact, savings via dematerialization, replacing with ICT equivalent processes it is an issue part of CSR (Corporate Social Responsability) "smart" process innovations, e.g. logistics DT started 2wks ago an 18-mo telecom sustainability initiative caveat: need of high-speed network reliable and available, that are investment-friendly; DT does not see the current position of the Commission as enough request: time to forge new alliances MY FEED-BACK: "Cicero pro domo sua", but there is some grain of truth also in a self-serving position
European Council of Regions
they ask national, european, businesses to cooperate at the local level with the existing initiatives
European Satellite Operators Association
ESOA asks to apply "incentivation" on every industry, on including the carbon footprint of any proposal, project, etc.
SAP
use ICT to enhance transparency of sustainability, to reduce the cost of the reports on sustainability they are developing a standard solution, but discovered that there are no EU-wide content and technical standards "Cicero pro domo sua", but, again, "practical and useful" as said by the Chair
Telefonica
Telefonica asks DGINFO to set WGs, KPIs, etc as the reference in each country often reports to the Prime Minister, a DGInfo initiative could deliver immediate transposition within the member countries
session 2
Summary from the Chair: issue of priorities orientate toward integrated problems, instead of specific technology issues crowdsourcing of innovation use of Internet as an enabler of innovation articulation within the European Community and outside better integration of different structure open structural funds to innovation small-scale pump-priming of funding for SMEs orientation toward clusters standardization paper, out for consultation in DGEnterprise, covering also IPR
SAP
five points: 1. EU Commission focused on the right track on 2. need for more public funding on seed 3. more funding into the innovation (opening up the structural funds to innovation) 4. improve effectiveness and efficiency- not ICT as such, but as an enabling factor for other sectors of the economy 5. horizontal: future of Internet, now is 17% of the EU GDP how to turn in innovation 1. improve validation of the results, especially on scalability 2. commercial procurement for public administration, early adoption of innovation could be a boost 2a. budget constraints 2b. public administration would be overwhelmed by introducing new technologies why part of the structure funds are not used for best practices implementation in the public sector, via free commerce procurement knowledge-based ICT cluster as the base MY COMMENT trying to open the structural funds for operational purposes, i.e. converting investment funds into expenditure funds
NEXT GENERATION INTERNET FOUNDATION - Paris
consumer market is the main driver for innovation main consumer uses of the Internet: not one of them identified or thinked by the original players on the Internet very different regime of innovation- not between firms, but a different approach the Internet of things lowering barrier of access, and have a prudent IPR agenda to avoid impeding access to innovation user-generated, under-the-radar innovation, beyond the digital: going beyond text-based, what would be an interesting platform for new products, innovation, services main point: push user-generated innovation at the center of the agenda
ERISA
George Hall e-inclusion institutional factors in the way the Commission functions have a negative impact on the interaction- each DG and almost every single activity have different rules, creating a management overload significant problems in the public sector: due to accountability to the electors in many members states the public sector is struggling not with the current, but with the past generation of technology bandwidth: how will we get the bandwidth to deliver the services cultural issue: even within a single member state, the public sector has a different language from the private sector encourage the private sector to communicate with the public sector the "stars" in the Nordic Countries are not representative- need to raise the average level
Main Topic 6
less linear: maybe innovation & research in the ambient innovation, SMEs participation has risen to 43% give small sums of money quickly without too many strings, e.g. up to 50k, to start grass-root innovation research is not the issue, it is innovation- how to turn results into marketeable products suggestion: talk about innovation and research, and not about the other way around
MICROSOFT
1. research agenda: speed of distribution of results 2. increase competition in the research agenda: intense competition in bidding, but no or less competition in the execution phase 3. symmetry in financial support: give preference to SME
NOKIA
1. funding: is in big companies interest to increase SMEs innovation; venture capital is one of the mode, but not the only one 2. all innovation needs a market ==== remarks on Chair summary Commission as enabler instead of just funding
DIGITAL EUROPE
2009 report from ftp.jrc.is/eurdac/jic49951.pdf on competitiveness ICT: 3% of employment 4.9% of GDP 26% of business expenditure on R&D page 13: comparing EU vs US on business vs government EU 10:1 US 6:1 [US includes all the military research] improve conditions for PhD studies and interdisciplinary work obstacles: - fragmented market for innovation - the service directory has missed the opportunity of the country of origin principle - more importance should be needed to cloud-based services multidisciplinary activities: the internal organization of EU Commission, its performance, measurement- messy, week, could be improved too many disconnected funding overengineering of the administrations involvement, considering the level of resources provided today need to open innovation and global interaction through the framework program internationalization ==== remarks on Chair summary - education industry - will submit contribution on IPR in writing => see proceeds
Intro
ICT research & innovation Orange Group innovations on relationship as a side-effect of technology, e.g. Burma "coupe de texts" [a wordplay on "coup d etat"- putsch] first: helping beyond the borders of EU with the access to the technological innovation second: practical approach to have solutions that have a tangible effect, not as a technology, but as a systemic issue, e.g. involving also social sciences (e.g. traffic management) third: size matters- you need a critical size to have an impact; instead of spreading effort thin, focus on centers of expertise (potentially in competition), but focused; fourth: infrastructure is on the right track, but we are missing some key elements, e.g. infrastructure for education and health, to support the future development fifth: give citizens access and involvement, giving open access to the research to the citizens, to allow progress
session 3
identifying the value and impact of connectivity on quality of life
HECTOR check name entity
state of the competition? why some companies have over 50% of the broadband market, and in some cases are increaseing? why seamless services are no available in Europe? why the benefit from the new technology is not transferred to consumers into prices in every country? need to invest into upgradeable networks cannot be allowed that 1-2 providers control speed, price, availability, content
FRENCH MINISTRY OF ECONOMY
regional or local intervention beyond market interest France has defined a legal and regulatory framework to know what is available in each territory with Germany are interested in building an overall atlas of the infrastructure
BROADBAND FOUNDATION
balance the infrastructure development in rural areas, try to create local online markets where they don't exist, as shown recently in Hungary
TELEFONICA
priorities 1. improve skills and knowledge: about 63% of the respondents to a recent questionnaire from the Swedish presidency of EU quoted this too factors 2. analyze existing research to identify the areas of improvement 3. need a framework to protect private sector investment; market as the provider of leadership in technology risk-sharing in broadband investment
BELGACOM
asks for less regulation, reduced VAT rate for broadband, incentives and credits
Intro
High speed networks, open internet
ERISA
George Hall expanding toward broadband will increase the digital divide, as the market will focus on the less-risky areas Commission should focus on the areas where the market will fail to provide access to high quality services produced a TO DO list, as each region has different issues, and therefore ERISA is technology-neutral: fiber, satellite, etc first, the public authorities need to map the infrastructure available, not just the telecom, but also the utilities, using their own telecom infrastructure introduce to new potential partners, to create market initiatives and businesses standardization about interoperability? without standardization, there will not be a single digital market roadmap on the broadband strategy? common European approach to create a common European infrastructure, encouraging also the SMEs to create new services and innovations
HECTOR check name entity
state of the competition? why some companies have over 50% of the broadband market, and in some cases are increaseing? why seamless services are no available in Europe? why the benefit from the new technology is not transferred to consumers into prices in every country? need to invest into upgradeable networks cannot be allowed that 1-2 providers control speed, price, availability, content
TELEFONICA
priorities 1. improve skills and knowledge: about 63% of the respondents to a recent questionnaire from the Swedish presidency of EU quoted this too factors 2. analyze existing research to identify the areas of improvement 3. need a framework to protect private sector investment; market as the provider of leadership in technology risk-sharing in broadband investment
ERISA
George Hall expanding toward broadband will increase the digital divide, as the market will focus on the less-risky areas Commission should focus on the areas where the market will fail to provide access to high quality services produced a TO DO list, as each region has different issues, and therefore ERISA is technology-neutral: fiber, satellite, etc first, the public authorities need to map the infrastructure available, not just the telecom, but also the utilities, using their own telecom infrastructure introduce to new potential partners, to create market initiatives and businesses standardization about interoperability? without standardization, there will not be a single digital market roadmap on the broadband strategy? common European approach to create a common European infrastructure, encouraging also the SMEs to create new services and innovations
session 4
Session 4
Intro
Online Single Market & access to creativity
European Digital Media Association
Single market only in the physical world, as the online side is managed nationally, albeit potentially is borderless European law is interpreted in different ways in different jurisdictions number of cross-border transactions is currently extremely low, as the legal framework impedes the moving across countries of goods, with no technical reason issue: efficiency, by creating a single larger market, and providing a scale,as it was for GSM on Internet- success stories are all Americans, thanks to the size of their internal market creating licensing regime
GESAC
European grouping of authors and composers piracy and role of ISPs as intermediaries benefiting from unlicensed copyrighted content [as usual, using the shield of the poor young authors stating that they are the most damaged; ignoring that the distribution and production market is actually the reason why younger authors prefer increasingly to go directly, without copyright protection, bypassing the industry and distribution, that deliver only a fraction of the retail price to the authors]
BEUC
EU consumer organization, representing 43 online business practices affect the fairness, transparency, privacy, interests the online rights are not on the level with offline rights asking for non-discriminatory access to services enforce data protection and privacy rights across EU address the territoriality of copyright, restricting access to knowledge create a licensing clearing and rights' ownership identification review the system of rights' owners compensation more transparency on collection and distribution levies levies should compensate actual licensing- not to to compensate for illegal copies
eBay
increase transparency and coordination
European Newspapers Publishers Associations
new advertising techniques and innovative digital marketing practices the ENPA will respect privacy, but they want self-regulation of privacy vs new technologies [for harvesting users' profiles and data] ENPA not in favour in further opening
CMBA Media
on behalf of the music industry the lack of more private legal download services is due to the lack of protection from piracy [interesting approach: all the self-regulating proponents ask for public funding and regulatory support to create their market]
AEPO Artis
performing artists (29 associations across Europe) remuneration of the POs for commercial uses is far from an achieved goal it is not just a matter to solve on the digital side most performers have a contractual obligation to transfer their rights bundled for any exploitation in any present and future media, without remuneration suggesting a labelling system to acknowledge that the distributing company is complying with a fair remuneration contracting and licensing approach
Digital Europe
a digital single market is difficult as the levies system is incoherent, arbitrary, and varies significantly in countries technology introduction takes longer, as the regulatory frameworks requires adaptation, while in Asia and US it is faster to introduce innovation suggestion: transfer levies issue to the center, with the copyright review of the EU Commission
ISPs association
obstacles:cross-border, territorial, contract and legal issues piracy is a symptom, not a cause 1. they do not want to become the policemen of the net 2. they want to comply with the law, but they are not advocating changes in privacy, etc 3. there must be a credible legal offer- not filtering etc, unless there is a credible development of the legal content on the market
International Video Federation
also International Federation of Film multiterritorial licensing film- rights sold by the producers, with direct negotiation selling the rights by territory or channel is to finance the production
Federation of European Publishers
... World check name
HSBC researched in UK and saw that over 1mln retirees become active after they retire ICT is enabling individuals to produce on a micro-scale has to be taken into account in the review of IPR law, by protecting and rewarding producers
Telefonica/ETNO
free-access to content should not be considered per se illegal data protection and privacy should not be reshaped in order to provide right to access or modify- as it already exist, but can be improved at the national level awareness campaign to make users more aware of their rights and the legal framework
Daniel Kaplan
be proactive in finding new ways to create revenue the motivation of producing innovation and content is not necessarily monetary, moreover when the marginal cost of production tends to zero
Motion Pictures Association
digital single market: freedom to provide services is not an obligation to the reason why the rights are not sold in a different way because there are no buyers: if Nokia were to ask the worldwide rights, they would be able to obtain them- but not if they were to buy the rights for Finland, and then use worldwide there are no legal obstacles to the sale of Pan-European rights, there are simply no buyers
Motion Pictures Association
digital single market: freedom to provide services is not an obligation to the reason why the rights are not sold in a different way because there are no buyers: if Nokia were to ask the worldwide rights, they would be able to obtain them- but not if they were to buy the rights for Finland, and then use worldwide there are no legal obstacles to the sale of Pan-European rights, there are simply no buyers
International Video Federation
also International Federation of Film multiterritorial licensing film- rights sold by the producers, with direct negotiation selling the rights by territory or channel is to finance the production
Federation of European Publishers
... World check name
HSBC researched in UK and saw that over 1mln retirees become active after they retire ICT is enabling individuals to produce on a micro-scale has to be taken into account in the review of IPR law, by protecting and rewarding producers
Telefonica/ETNO
free-access to content should not be considered per se illegal data protection and privacy should not be reshaped in order to provide right to access or modify- as it already exist, but can be improved at the national level awareness campaign to make users more aware of their rights and the legal framework
Daniel Kaplan
be proactive in finding new ways to create revenue the motivation of producing innovation and content is not necessarily monetary, moreover when the marginal cost of production tends to zero
European Newspapers Publishers Associations
new advertising techniques and innovative digital marketing practices the ENPA will respect privacy, but they want self-regulation of privacy vs new technologies [for harvesting users' profiles and data] ENPA not in favour in further opening
CMBA Media
on behalf of the music industry the lack of more private legal download services is due to the lack of protection from piracy [interesting approach: all the self-regulating proponents ask for public funding and regulatory support to create their market]
AEPO Artis
performing artists (29 associations across Europe) remuneration of the POs for commercial uses is far from an achieved goal it is not just a matter to solve on the digital side most performers have a contractual obligation to transfer their rights bundled for any exploitation in any present and future media, without remuneration suggesting a labelling system to acknowledge that the distributing company is complying with a fair remuneration contracting and licensing approach
Digital Europe
a digital single market is difficult as the levies system is incoherent, arbitrary, and varies significantly in countries technology introduction takes longer, as the regulatory frameworks requires adaptation, while in Asia and US it is faster to introduce innovation suggestion: transfer levies issue to the center, with the copyright review of the EU Commission
ISPs association
obstacles:cross-border, territorial, contract and legal issues piracy is a symptom, not a cause 1. they do not want to become the policemen of the net 2. they want to comply with the law, but they are not advocating changes in privacy, etc 3. there must be a credible legal offer- not filtering etc, unless there is a credible development of the legal content on the market
Intro
Online Single Market & access to creativity
European Digital Media Association
Single market only in the physical world, as the online side is managed nationally, albeit potentially is borderless European law is interpreted in different ways in different jurisdictions number of cross-border transactions is currently extremely low, as the legal framework impedes the moving across countries of goods, with no technical reason issue: efficiency, by creating a single larger market, and providing a scale,as it was for GSM on Internet- success stories are all Americans, thanks to the size of their internal market creating licensing regime
GESAC
European grouping of authors and composers piracy and role of ISPs as intermediaries benefiting from unlicensed copyrighted content [as usual, using the shield of the poor young authors stating that they are the most damaged; ignoring that the distribution and production market is actually the reason why younger authors prefer increasingly to go directly, without copyright protection, bypassing the industry and distribution, that deliver only a fraction of the retail price to the authors]
BEUC
EU consumer organization, representing 43 online business practices affect the fairness, transparency, privacy, interests the online rights are not on the level with offline rights asking for non-discriminatory access to services enforce data protection and privacy rights across EU address the territoriality of copyright, restricting access to knowledge create a licensing clearing and rights' ownership identification review the system of rights' owners compensation more transparency on collection and distribution levies levies should compensate actual licensing- not to to compensate for illegal copies
eBay
increase transparency and coordination
session 5
[interesting perspective: while the previous sessions had plenty of self-serving declations, but within an informative framework, this session delivered just the "Cicero pro domo sua" approach- with limited or no relevance to the session intended aim the only contribution on the spot talked about ICT to "create jobs"- but, actually, removing jobs, via e-health and streamlining of the public sector via e-gov]
Intro
International ICT arena & ICT for growth and jobs agenda
Ministry of Science Portugal
the challenges are not European Influence: Europe vs World ----------- e.g. regional projects in Southern America, Mediterranean, and so on create joint projects e.g. e-health, with telemedicine e.g. on e-gov, exchange best practices e.g. give open access to research repositories World vs Europe --------- international fora, e.g. internet governance, ICANN, etc talk as separate voices conveying the same message, not as a single voice [the multiple velocity/variable team approach?]
CMBA
[see what said in previous sessions- said nothing on the subject]
Skype
approx 500mil users founded in Estonia, HQ in Luxembourg (funded from Luxembourg) 1. "innovation without permission" proportional, consumer-directed protection 2. innovation without permission from fragmented national regulators with convergence, there are thousands of providers outside the national providers [former monopolists], but there are 27 different regulatory and investment frameworks 3. innovation without permission from internet gatekeepers User-driven market selection is impeded by pre-emptive discriminatory practices in US instead the open internet policy could attract businesses and consumers from Europe
CMBA
[see what said in previous sessions- said nothing on the subject]
Skype
approx 500mil users founded in Estonia, HQ in Luxembourg (funded from Luxembourg) 1. "innovation without permission" proportional, consumer-directed protection 2. innovation without permission from fragmented national regulators with convergence, there are thousands of providers outside the national providers [former monopolists], but there are 27 different regulatory and investment frameworks 3. innovation without permission from internet gatekeepers User-driven market selection is impeded by pre-emptive discriminatory practices in US instead the open internet policy could attract businesses and consumers from Europe
Ministry of Science Portugal
the challenges are not European Influence: Europe vs World ----------- e.g. regional projects in Southern America, Mediterranean, and so on create joint projects e.g. e-health, with telemedicine e.g. on e-gov, exchange best practices e.g. give open access to research repositories World vs Europe --------- international fora, e.g. internet governance, ICANN, etc talk as separate voices conveying the same message, not as a single voice [the multiple velocity/variable team approach?]
session 6
ANEC
association consumers in standardization a rights-based approach, i.e. right to access internet privacy, security, interoperability co-regulatory model strategy for information society for all
check entity (already talked)
e-health: fragmentation, and reimbursement (linked to electronic records) work need to be done with the stakeholders (doctors, pharmacists, etc) on using the e-health facilities in prescription education: first week of March 2010 "e-awareness week" in 21 EU countries
SAP (? check)
e-government 1. is it execute or is it create? 2. migration period- how to accelerate 3. foundation of data 4. transforming government conversations and services- from transactional to conversational 5. tapping into the potential to deliver services in a different ways, e.g. teleservices
GMSK check name
e-gov and inclusion 1. enable people to contribute the delivery of services by standardizing and opening access 2. use ICT to open a permanent feed-back loop on services, distinguishing impressions from facts 3. personalization services, as possible and affordable with ICT; inclusive approach, tailored to the specific profile of services consumption 4. open access, e.g. as allowed by the platforms for gaming [use gaming consoles for DigitalTV-like services?]
Intro
Public services & ICT for quality of life
ANEC
association consumers in standardization a rights-based approach, i.e. right to access internet privacy, security, interoperability co-regulatory model strategy for information society for all
EUROCITIES
network of 140 cities in Europe identify target strategies for local stakeholders, to implement common policies adapted to local needs [glocal- global+local approach] 9% of UK citizens suffer from social exclusions, 75% of which with no access: i.e. affecting 6 million people just in UK providing information access, supporting unemployed people in creating new businesses, assist in the use of technologies by disabled people 75% EU citizens live in major cities setting up networks for digitai inclusion
MOTOROLA
["Cicero pro domo sua"- focus on ICT for public safety services, i.e. their products] spectrum allocation planning of evolving spectrum needs for emergency services
EUROCITIES
network of 140 cities in Europe identify target strategies for local stakeholders, to implement common policies adapted to local needs [glocal- global+local approach] 9% of UK citizens suffer from social exclusions, 75% of which with no access: i.e. affecting 6 million people just in UK providing information access, supporting unemployed people in creating new businesses, assist in the use of technologies by disabled people 75% EU citizens live in major cities setting up networks for digitai inclusion
MOTOROLA
["Cicero pro domo sua"- focus on ICT for public safety services, i.e. their products] spectrum allocation planning of evolving spectrum needs for emergency services
ERISA
ubiqu. networking
ENPA
e-procurement asking to keep the print [again, "Cicero pro domo sua" hidden behind the public accessibility]
....
health approx 10% public services approx 20% => this area is the largest economic item on the agenda gap between citizens, government, administrations European companies invest more in US that in Europe- why? lack of a single market identify areas where the government can lead by example
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